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pooled tips - 2/24/2010 8:58:00 AM
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davelinde
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A friend of mine just started a second part time job to make ends meet. Someone "did him a favor" and got him a job valet parking at a big resort/hotel. He was told the job was $4/hr plus tips that could be $100/night working 6 to midnight.
Well... after two weeks the reality is far different. The tips are pooled among 9 people. He says he finishes the night with 60 or 70 in his pocket and he knows that the guys at the door will have a few hundred each they turn in (they get more tips because of how the cars are handled). However each night he gets a tip cut of less than $40.
At first he though they were just slow... then someone took him aside and in so many words told him that people keep some amount of their tips out of the pool... He's not willing to lie and with the low tip cut he's getting the job is barely worth the gas to get there. He figures the only option is to quit.
How common is this kind of problem with pooled tips? It seems indicative of pretty poor management that people can get away with this... I'd think the guys in front would really raise a stink (then again, maybe they're holding some of their too) I guess he's better off out of there.
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RE: pooled tips - 2/24/2010 12:12:09 PM
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thebaker
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i never had a job that tipped, but when i first heard of pooled tips a few years ago and how it was done, that question came to mind. each person is responsible for putting all their tips in the pool. who's to know whether or not someone is actually turning in all tips OR turning in part of the tips and pocketing the rest?
when it comes to pooled tips, i don't think there is any clean way of handling it. each employee cannot be trusted to submit all their tips. if tips went directly to the employer, who's to say the employer is submitting all tips for the employees? money has a way of changing people.
i agree, lying ain't worth it. it'll only pull him away from God's graces.
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RE: pooled tips - 2/24/2010 1:26:48 PM
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eaglelady11
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one of the places I waited tables at, a while back, did the pooled tips thing. I didn't like it because I felt some worked really hard and others didn't knowing they would still get money. Another place, I got to keep the tips but had to share with the bartender and the busser, which I didn't mind because they helped out.
if he doesn't like it, perhaps he could go somewhere else.
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RE: pooled tips - 2/24/2010 3:01:56 PM
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davelinde
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ORIGINAL: eaglelady11
if he doesn't like it, perhaps he could go somewhere else.
Here there are 9 guys running cars to the lot and they hand off keys and pick up cars in such a way that not all of them see customers the same amount - so not all would get tipped as much. So... pooling makes sense.
He was initially OK feeling like he must just be hustling more than the guys in the same job as he has... thinking that's why his tips were so much more than theirs. To be clear... what he does not like is the hint that the others are pocketing part of their tips and he should too.
He won't. I think he will quit. I've never worked for tips or managed people who did. I just wondered if this was a common experience.
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